tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post8099883912013573859..comments2024-03-17T11:29:35.743-04:00Comments on Final Girl: Hello, Dolly! - Day 3Stacie Ponderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07784074536271206501noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-44445086611447634622008-03-21T21:50:00.000-04:002008-03-21T21:50:00.000-04:00OMG i loved the movie i thought it was scary. but ...OMG i loved the movie i thought it was scary. but why they ended it like that was wierd probly cause theyre leaving hints 4 a 2nd 1 but i LOVED THE MOVIE CREEPY AND CUTEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-19329597246219081942007-10-05T07:49:00.000-04:002007-10-05T07:49:00.000-04:00Hi all, just thought I would give my take on this ...Hi all, just thought I would give my take on this film that i recently watched on DVD. Sure there were plotholes in this movie that needed to be answered. As you alluded to earlier sophie, why on earth would the people of ravenfair obligingly bury Mary Shaw and her entire doll collection after they killed her for the disappearance of a boy? <BR/><BR/>However i must credit the director for introducing a twist in the ending that looked unexpected but yet at same time makes sense if one paid close attention to little clues left in the film (which i didn't initially :P).<BR/><BR/>Allow me to explain (warning spoilers below so dun read if you havent watched the movie yet.)<BR/>-<BR/>-<BR/>-<BR/>-<BR/>-<BR/>Mary Shaw was a well known ventriloquist in Ravenfair and held performances with her puppet billy. However she had a dark secret. She wanted to create a perfect doll. [alluded to when jamie ashen was flippling thru her diary].<BR/> <BR/>The disappearance of the boy who questioned her ability as a ventriloquist was the result of her dark desire. [that boy is michael ashen, jamie's uncle and he would be considered one of mary's shaw's failed projects tp create the perfect doll]. Not surprisingly, she was lynched by the ashen family as well as people in ravenfair when they suspected her.<BR/><BR/>She was turned into a doll and buried along with her hundred over dolls as stated in her will. (Why this happened we wont know). Unfortunately for the people of ravenfair, mary shaw refused to stay dead and her spirit lingered plus she could inhabit any of her own dolls at will. She sought revenge against the people who killed her and also against the ashen family. [Again another plothole as we were not told how the families in ravenfair were killed, had their tongues cut out and were posed in macabre family portraits].<BR/><BR/>Jamie's wife was murdered in the same grisly way as the people of ravenfair had been previously. The reason was explained when Jamie went close to the clown doll at the end and was told the following phrase "you are not the last ashen". Obviously jamie's wife was pregnant [hinted at the beginning when she was standing in front of the mirror and artificially expanded her tummy].<BR/><BR/>By now you are wondering what this has to do with the twist but i will get to it. i am trying to show how most things tie into the twist.<BR/><BR/>Jamie's father's expressionless face and almost non existing blinking were clues that he was already dead, another experiment of mary shaw. Again it was stated how he died although we can safely assume that a person who has suffered debilitating stroke would be in no position to put up a fight. Also when the demented old lady informs jamie that his father picked up billy from the funeral home even though jamie knows his father can't walk. the reason is clear again, mary shaw can possess her dolls as she wishes.<BR/><BR/>Now finally we come to the twist. That Ella, jamie's dead stepmother, had orchestrated all these things. Ella, in mary shaw's book, was defined as the perfect doll. A doll with human features and movements. She had mailed billy the doll to jamie so that mary shaw could get to work killing jamie's wife. It was not mentioned how mary shaw got hold of ella. The alternate ending on the DVD did shed some light on this. Ella had been abused by jamie's father as was stated on the movie. However in the alternate ending, there was a scene where she was pushed down the stairs by jamie's father and brought to hospital where she had a miscarriage (she was shown to be pregnant then). Another scene showed her sitting back home and staring at the fireplace with hatred in her eyes. As she was doing so, the figure of mary shaw appeared through the curtain. The next scene showed ella kneeling in front of billy's grave, having dug him out. Her back was shown to us as she held him up. billy's mouth then opened spontaneously and then the scene faded. What we have here is a woman who probably hated her husband for abusing her and causing the miscarriage. Mary shaw also harboured deep seated hatred to the ashen family. Perhaps ella gave her body to mary shaw as a means of seeing revenge dealt to her husband.<BR/><BR/>If only the directors had used the scenes from the alternate ending, pehaps people wont be so perplexed about ella as being the perfect doll for mary shaw.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-66162351599103666052007-10-03T21:20:00.000-04:002007-10-03T21:20:00.000-04:00Aw, crap. I was really looking forward to this. :...Aw, crap. I was really looking forward to this. :(<BR/><BR/>I only read the first two paragraphs of your post (I'll read the rest after I see it) but I saw enough to know it was disappointing. <BR/><BR/>I can't believe I didn't check in for a week and you spent it all writing about dummy movies!! Yay!Melizerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08724343282950179740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-79828381304880219602007-09-27T23:49:00.000-04:002007-09-27T23:49:00.000-04:00"They didn't have an army of ventriloquist dummies..."They didn't have an army of ventriloquist dummies marching over town by the end of the movie?"<BR/><BR/>You'd think, right? They had <I>100 dolls all in the same place</I>, but all they did was turn their freakin' heads!! <BR/><BR/>"PS, are you going to bring back the "3.5 depressed ox out of 10"?" <BR/><BR/>Probably not. I was getting too existential about my ratings and I was all wrapped up in the variables- "What if it sucks, but I loved it? What if it's good, but I didn't care for it?" and the such. Also, I noticed quite a few other people using the same kind of ratings on <I>their</I> blogs, so...I just kind of dropped it.<BR/><BR/>Who knows? Maybe some day I'll have an epiphany and I'll come up with the perfect Final Girl ratings system!<BR/><BR/>"a supposed throwback to the old RKO or Universal days"<BR/><BR/>Now that's just crazy talk! I've read the same thing, actually, but I totally don't get it.<BR/><BR/>"Your link to "Struwwelpeter" was great!"<BR/><BR/>Yay! I even have the book. I read it to my cats before bedtime, but I don't think they've learned anything at all.<BR/><BR/>"Mrs. Butterworth isn't REAL?!?"<BR/><BR/>It hurt me deeply to have to be the one to relay that info. How many childhoods have I destroyed, all for a film review??Stacie Ponderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07784074536271206501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-3514543218656266312007-09-27T19:16:00.000-04:002007-09-27T19:16:00.000-04:00Wait! Mrs. Butterworth isn't REAL?!?Wait! Mrs. Butterworth isn't REAL?!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-52429448287778135472007-09-27T09:13:00.000-04:002007-09-27T09:13:00.000-04:00I was truly looking forward to this one. Now I'll...I was truly looking forward to this one. Now I'll wait for it to come to HBO or something. Thanks for the heads up.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09979914565647698188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-88576325380698688852007-09-27T08:54:00.000-04:002007-09-27T08:54:00.000-04:00Your link to "Struwwelpeter" was great!I had never...Your link to "Struwwelpeter" was great!<BR/>I had never heard of the damn thing before and looking at the different stories is, well, not jaw-dropping, but definitely mouth-opening.<BR/>What an awesome, awesome reference!<BR/>Thanks for sharing!<BR/><BR/>Oh, haven't seen the film, though, because I'm a time-mismanaging bonehead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-2484094969045010752007-09-27T03:26:00.000-04:002007-09-27T03:26:00.000-04:00I'm not totally surprised that the people behind S...I'm not totally surprised that the people behind Saw 3 couldn't make a decent movie...RJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00960849284510182412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-84638317925834527422007-09-27T01:50:00.000-04:002007-09-27T01:50:00.000-04:00what's up with trying to pass off "Shaw" and "doll...<I>what's up with trying to pass off "Shaw" and "dolls" as words that rhyme?</I><BR/><BR/>"Beware of the stare of Mary Balls!"Arbogasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12670776992289080245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-74107603872387285222007-09-27T01:01:00.000-04:002007-09-27T01:01:00.000-04:00Glad you didn't like this blah little movie. I saw...Glad you didn't like this blah little movie. I saw enough praise for it being a supposed throwback to the old RKO or Universal days that I was starting to wonder if I'd missed something.mathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17330034568070762732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-32986294363553033242007-09-26T18:16:00.000-04:002007-09-26T18:16:00.000-04:00Thankyou Stacie for clarifying that this film is a...Thankyou Stacie for clarifying that this film is a passover. I've been told by some to see it, because it was so good. Now, based on their past ratings, and your past ratings, it's safe to slant to your side and say it's 'blah'.<BR/><BR/>PS, are you going to bring back the "3.5 depressed ox out of 10"?Josh DeSlasherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06229382844556631429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-43371160598773252682007-09-26T18:00:00.000-04:002007-09-26T18:00:00.000-04:00They didn't have an army of ventriloquist dummies ...They didn't have an army of ventriloquist dummies marching over town by the end of the movie? I thought that was the only point of there being so many! *tear*Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14679839426291667211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13599870.post-5914318905328850482007-09-26T15:40:00.000-04:002007-09-26T15:40:00.000-04:00The jump cut thing has become an epidemic. It's la...The jump cut thing has become an epidemic. It's lazy directing. Rather than building tension through good story telling, it's easier to make fast edits to confuse people's brains. <BR/><BR/>I have to agree, Dead Silence left a lot to be desired. Like an explanation for all of Donnie Walberg's shaving. Constantly shaving! Who shaves that much?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00663519069406041482noreply@blogger.com